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Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:12 PM

recently i've seen alot of nice dolls ouo; and i plan to get them on my birthday (i know its expensive :B) but im still wondering whats the difference between Azone and Volks or Dollfie Dream ouo; (i actually got no idea of what it is) so yeah.. before doing any researches i better ask the difference first -w-;

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:36 AM

Not very experienced in Dolfie but did have a few friends that are playing one. They did share some of those info with me.

Azone are a cheaper version of Dolfie Dream, quality details are slightly lower and so do the price. Can say it is a budgeted version of Dolfie Dream.

Volks is a company that produced Dolfie Dream aka Super Dolfie. Dolfie Dream is what people call Super Dolfie because their details is far better and so do the price. Currently are the best dolfie around. Many famous anime character are produced and if you know the price..well, all i can say is smile.

Here's some reference to see their product at their website. A picture speak a thousands words right? ^^

Azone : http://www.azone-int.jp/

Volks (Dolfie Dream): http://www.volks.co....eam/index.html/


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:38 AM

sankyuu for your information :3
well i got a question. oAO; i've seen people talking about making up for dollfies and i've seen some tutorials in this forum posted by uhm.. cant remember :X well.. OAO; i still dont understand and uhm.. -w-; this custom made dollfie. i can make em right? would it be more expensive?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:40 PM

I heard custom made dolfie are much more cheaper because you control the purchase of body parts, hair and clothes. From what i have learned so far, building the body is quite cheap, next is the hair (Saber style hair is the most expensive of all...i heard) and finally the clothes, which from what i know, is the most expensive item of the whole dolfie.

First you select the body you want, the eyes, mouth and etc. Then you choose the hair you want and lastly, the clothes. Why they say it is cheaper because you can buy 1 at a time. For example like, you buy the body first, then delay the others until you have money to get the hair and the clothes.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:44 PM

ah.. okay xD thanks -facepalm- the body costs about 600-700or more. very very close to my budget already. and the head too, cost alot OAO; gawsh... well.. i saw the heads and im like dafuq oAO; cuz theres Eyeshole opened and closed type. what are the difference? sorry for asking millions of question >A<

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:06 AM

Haha no problem~ Yeah building a dolfie is always..not cheap. One of the Final Level of scale figure collector? LOL~

About that..i will need to ask my friend who are more experienced in this, will get back to you soon~ :D

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:55 PM

kai~ sankyuu in advanced xD wwaaaaaa so much of helpies sankyuu!! if the dollfie is over my budget i'll change to ultimate madoka :B

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:42 AM

Sorry for the late reply, my friend doesn't understand my questions lol~ do you have a picture regarding the eyeshold that opened and close? :o

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:29 AM

https://www.volks.co...d=4518992335742
https://www.volks.co...d=4518992335759 here you go :B

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

Sorry for the late reply, was kinda busy recently. Will ask my friend about it~

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:32 PM

aye~~ im not in a rush so its okay X3

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:59 PM

Link 1 is can open and close eyes.

Link 2 is can open eyes only but can't close. :3

Well~ might as well recommend my friend to you easier so that you can ask him for more detail or maybe...order? xD

Do you have facebook? :D

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:23 AM

sankyuu :D and yeah. i do have fb. i'll pm you for my fb

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:27 AM

Alright~ i will reply from there then ^^

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 04:48 PM

Super dollfie and dollfie dream are totally different.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 10:10 PM

Hey there =)

hope you found your answers to the difference between the two etc. But if not let me give you a brief (maybe not so) difference.

AZONE
I guess like lunn say it can be seen as a cheaper version of the DD.
AZONE mainly focus on character dolls, like those doll that already custom made to look like anime characters or other original characters.
Also for AZONE majority of the dolls they make are 1/6 in scale in comparison to the DD which are 1/3 scaled. AZONE do sell 1/3 dolls but these range is very limited in choice.
Another thing to note is that most (in fact I think all) AZONE dolls have painted on eyes/decals (this means that the eye is painted on the face and is just like figure, so this means that if you want to change the doll eyes, it is impossible unless u remove the paint/decal and stick new one on)
Regarding custom dolls from AZONE, I'm actually not sure if AZONE sell parts in order to make a custom doll =P
As far as I know they only sell the pure nemo bodies separately but not sure about the heads.
(If your going for a custom doll and can't afford the hefty VOLKS price tag there is an option which is to go for an OBITSU, will explain below)

VOLKS
VOLKS is like to me (personally) the king of BJDs XD They were one of the first companies to come up with BJD =P and their quality and sculpt is really pretty =)
Unlike AZONE that specialises more on smaller scale dolls, majority of VOLKS dolls are scaled 1/3 in size and a few are 1/4 (the MMD series, SD13?)
For the BJD dolls VOLKS create, it can be separated into 2 basic categories. The SD (Super Dollfie) and the DD (Dollfie Dream)
The difference between the two, if to simply put it is the sculpt.
The SD goes for a more realistic sculpt while the DD have a more anime like sculpt.
Price wise their both equally expensive =P I'm not too knowledgeable with SD so the following points I make are more towards the DD

Similar to the AZONE series VOLKS also mainly make character dolls, i.e. the sculpt is based on specific character (the DD focus more on anime characters, there are some SD based on anime characters as well e.g. Victorique and Kujo from GOSICK)
But VOLKS also sell their own original characters, Yukino and Aoi are the two sculpts that are available for sale without any complications.

I say complications because, for the DD which are based on anime characters, e.g. Saber, Mashiro etc. these dolls are only available for order during the period in which they are opened for pre-orders. In certain cases there is even a need for lottery (i.e. not everyone can get them)
So if you are after a particular anime character doll, you are most likely to be unable to get the doll directly from VOLKS, and have to get it from places like Ebay or Yahoo Japan Auctions. Truth is the same thing goes for AZONE dolls as well but since most of AZONE dolls are 1/6 scaled they are produced in a larger number and should still be in stock in partnership stores.

Now let us talk about custom dolls =)

First up let me answer your question regarding the open and closed eyes thing.
If you look at the pictures I'm sure you can straight away identify the difference between the two. As it's name suggest one has eyeholes on the head and the other doesn't.
What it means is that for the heads with the eye holes, the dolls eyes are glass eyes. I.e. they can be separated from the head, (not painted on) I guess you can think of it more like human eyes where the eyes for these heads are like eyeballs. =) (most if not all character DDs have opened eyes)
Similarly the head without the holes just mean that there is no hole for you to insert those glass eyes, so you will need to paint on the eyes (like AZONE) or use decals (can be bought, is just like a sticker). Or if you are skilled enough (or get someone to do it for you) you can carve and open the eyes yourself.

Now the difference between the two is that one is painted on and one is put in the glass eyes. Ofcz for opened heads, you will still need to buy separate glass eyes so in a way it is more expensive (though u will still need to paint the closed eye ones). So it's all up to personal preference in the end.

I can't really say that custom dolls are cheaper but in general it should be cheaper =)
(for example you might chose to buy a pre-painted head from SQLabs (they specialise in custom DD heads) and those tend to be on the higher end in terms of costs)

Though do note unless you buy a doll head that is already painted you will still need to do the face up for the doll (this is the make up thing you were talking about) This also includes extra cost i.e. paint, topcoat etc. or service fee if you get someone to do it for you.

Also note that a custom doll means you are buying everything separately, body + head + wig + eyes + face up + clothes
So the cost still adds up to be quite a fair bit.

Having said that, VOLKS's DD body is still quite pricey, if you are looking for a cheaper alternative there is another BJD manufacturer in Japan called Obitsu that specialises on custom dolls. (If i recall correctly, I think I read somewhere that the AZONE 1/3 dolls actually use the Obitsu bodies)

I myself opted to get a Obitsu instead of a DD due to financial constraints =)

Obitsu dolls use a similar skeleton frame that the DD uses, on one hand I heard that it is more flexible than the DD bodies but their joints are more obvious and thus uglier(?)

The obitsu basic body costs around 20k yen and the head is also less pricier than VOLKS, though their head sculpts are much more limited. Do take note that what ever price you see online is still missing the shipping and handling charges unless stated). As the dolls come in quite big boxes and are usually packaged with lots of bubble wrap etc. for safety reasons, this portion does add up to be quite abit a well.

If you are willing to take some risk and do the face up yourself and also if you can sow. This would reduce the initial cost by quite a fair bit but the minimum cost will still be near to RM900-1k. I spent around 1k on my girl when I first got her =P

If there is anything else you not sure about feel free to ask I'll try and help as far as I can =D

Sorry for the super long post ^^;;

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 09:05 AM

WoW! That's alot of info, thanks for the share~ I learned too xD

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

^^; yeah
I realised that it was a super long post =P

As a person who have my own custom doll I thought I should share some basic info =)

And just want to correct you.. like Ceres say, the SD and DD are not the same ^^, in fact aside from their type of sculpts there is also a other differences, like their body structure, the DD uses a skeleton frame but the SD does not ^^.

If there is anything else you need to know feel free to ask I will answer if I can XD
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:07 PM

thats a long post indeed o-e; sorry for late reply. had been busy with school stuff recently ._.; though i posted at some other posts. LOL okay i dont mind paying about 900-1500. would you mind suggesting some dolls for me ouo" im trying to use my savings and birthday budget ._.; so.. yeah.. i could get one ._.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:13 PM

thats a long post indeed o-e; sorry for late reply. had been busy with school stuff recently ._.; though i posted at some other posts. LOL okay i dont mind paying about 900-1500. would you mind suggesting some dolls for me ouo" im trying to use my savings and birthday budget ._.; so.. yeah.. i could get one ._.


You can't really can get a DD at 900-1500.
As far as I know a standard doll will cost around 40k Yen (Aprox RM1.6k).
Considering shipping, taxes (depends on luck) and other misc charges such as changing face up, clothings etc min budget will be RM2k (I usually maximize the expenses with calculating)
You have another alternative to buy head and body separately to custom the doll yourself, this cost cheaper, but you will need to consider extra expenses for face up, clothings.
If you are considering a limited doll, you will need a minimun budget of RM3k.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:56 PM

its fine. im okay with it
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:20 PM

Hello, i am a owner of my beloved Saber Dollfie Dream and my custom Dollfie Dream Alicia ... well Azone is not a DOLLFIEDREAM... its a lower version of "anime doll" feel free to take a look at my girls, i stay in Selangor PJ
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

thats a long post indeed o-e; sorry for late reply. had been busy with school stuff recently ._.; though i posted at some other posts. LOL okay i dont mind paying about 900-1500. would you mind suggesting some dolls for me ouo" im trying to use my savings and birthday budget ._.; so.. yeah.. i could get one ._.


Hi Hi, I'm soooo super sorry for the late reply cz I hardly visit CFF nowadays (atleast not the sub forums)

Hope I'm not too late on the advice but then if it is thn I'll treat this as advice for otehrs in the future~

Ok so lets start XD (get ready for wall of text)

If your budget is about 900 to 1.5k than I'm quite sorry and sad to inform you that what ceres has said is true. The basic Aoi or Yukino costs about 39,900yen (I cant recall exact figure but shoudl be aroudn there, a quick check on volks' website will give yout he answer anyways)
So maybe if you can up your budget to 2k than it would be possible to get the basic DD. Or mayeb even an anime character DD this is based on luck and availability (constant stalking on YJA)

But if your not thinking of getting a DD and looking into doing the same as myself (i.e. a custom Obitsu doll) than congratiulations! It will fall within ur budget =)

If your asking me which or what doll to get than it all really boils down to your own personal preference. Obitsu dolls come in variant shades white and natural (so maybe take a look at the actual pictures online before you decide, I personally took the white because I like my doll to be fair and frankly speaking their natural looks too much tanned fo rmy liking)

If your wondering where to get your doll here are a few suggestions:
MimiWoo: http://mimiwoo.com/
They usually include shipping in their prices already so in some sense if your not used to purchasing items online this would be a better choice. And at teh same time you can also pick up other things like clothing and shoes for your new child.

HOBBYSEARCH: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/
This shops ships directly from Japan, if your a figure collector I'm sure you wou already ahve heard frm them

YJA
This one requires some searching and an agent. But you might still manage to get your doll cheaper from YJA cz they quite steeply discounted bodies. Eg. The normal doll might cost you about 20k yen but you can find it on YJA for about 14kyen. Requires more thought and calculation on your part to figure out if it is still cheaper after agent fees and shipping etc.
(p/s: I got my daughter from YJA just fyi)

EBAY
Another alternative so far I havent heard of "bootleg" dolls =P So I dun think this problem exist (unlike when buying figurines)

All in all is up to you to do your own searching and calculations to work out which is the fastest/cheapest way to get your doll. Afterall if you had to scour the web and do excel spreadsheets and cost anaylsis to get your doll I'm sure you would love her more =)

Just some basics if your planning to get an obitsu, before you buy do check if the doll comes with a head or not (e.g. the 50cm body come with a head) so this way you know what you need and what you dont. Do note that when they say head + body, it literally just means head + body and no eyes/make up/not even underwear(yesh our poor dolls are naked and cold when they arrive) etc unless specified XD

Alternatively... with a budget fo 900 to 1.5k you can also opt to go for those bjds like form luts, DOD etc. But this post is gettign super long and since you specified AZONE and VOLKS in your initial question I pressumed you were more interested in dolls with skeleton frames rather than the strings.

If you want more info, please pm me we can discuss in further details (I don't know when I will next check this post, so if you dont want a reply after 2 months you know how to contact me XD)
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